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Interview of the Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki with the Saudi newspaper Okaz

05/03/2012 22:45

First of all, we start with what is connected between the two countries .. How do you see the reality of relations between Iraq and Saudi Arabia and Ttenbion for its future?

- Our expectations for the future of our relationship with Saudi Arabia by necessity that we need and need our brothers in the Kingdom must be a good relationship because neighborliness and common challenges, interests and history inherent, and belonging, are imposed to be a high degree of good relations and we want to continue and continue in order to complete is that we have begun and the first visit abroad was to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is certainly a feeling of the importance of the kingdom in the region and its impact on the stability of the security so the last steps that took place after many of the conversations of direct and indirect promising, our Ambassador in the Kingdom, a person respected by the officials There is a good man and most recently the Kingdom were named ambassador to Baghdad, though not a resident, but this step is a great way to install the relationship at the level of diplomatic exchange of higher and also to our delegation now visiting the kingdom and confer on issues of cooperative security and non-security, because security is a concern for us and for Saudi Arabia and the rest of the countries in the region.

There are relationships established for durability between the two countries, the relationships are popular mass These relations are good and there continues to this matter correlation tribal and tribal affiliation between the tribes and Iraqi tribes, Saudi Arabia, there are also businessmen and Saudi companies operating in Iraq and all these bridges channels imposes itself on the two countries and leaders in both countries because go towards integrated solid relationships in the interest of both parties.

Iraq today believes in the principle of non-interference the affairs of others, not as it was the former regime, when he was involved every day in this state and that, and we are looking for normal relations based on common interests, dialogue and commonalities that unite the parties, especially between us and our brothers in Saudi Arabia, These are all factors which confirm that the relationship is better and on the verge of a major development

Decided to appoint Saudi foreign ambassador to Iraq, how do you see from any angle you read this step?

- We believe it is a step forward and it came time appropriate and that it reflects the feeling that the Saudi foreign that the situation in Iraq is now deserve to be relations between the two countries good, especially as we approach the Arab Summit in Baghdad and the accessories that have the Arab embassies and ambassadors were present in Baghdad

- We believe that what happened because of the circumstances experienced by Iraq of the presence of foreign forces and terrorism has led to confusion in the political situation called on Arab countries neglect the development of its relations with Iraq, but many of the suspicions raised about Iraq ended today and started to Arab embassies re-open its doors to engage Onchatha and we mourn when We meet with the ambassadors generally do not find an Arab ambassador in Baghdad

- Iraq an Arab country, a founder of the Arab League and looks forward to the support and interaction and cooperation with all Arab states, and when it is not one of the Arab ambassadors present on its territory definitely Christz in self-defense, but today, thank God a lot of countries opened their embassies at the ambassadorial level or at the level of charge d’affaires The move comes Saudi Arabia complementary to the steps initiated by the brothers and our Arab brothers.

What are the tools and the steps in your opinion, which contribute to the strengthening of relations between the two countries?

- To develop relations must come at the points that are the subject of forms or the lack of clarity, yes there are issues of trade and exchange are all important, but more importantly her to place the relationship on the basis of clear and be the foundation and clear, but the payment problems and to lift all the obstacles and challenges to understand the specific and some Moved in inaccurate for us and our brothers in the Kingdom and this issue needs Mint dialogue face to face to talk about these issues directly and not through intermediaries because intermediaries usually spoil the relationship between states and not between our brothers in Saudi Arabia and any barriers between us so as not to talk directly

- Our brothers who are now in Saudi Arabia talking to us about receiving a good and positive atmosphere good, and I say to you that the relationship between us strong must be the basis of clear and could be that we draw these lines through direct relations and closer to each other and engage in all that disturbs these relationships

You mentioned that you first visit abroad was to Saudi Arabia what was your position and what are the reasons that invited you to be the Kingdom is the first Mahttkm?

- Was at the several letters and you Qasdha and not spontaneous because I was invited from many countries but I decided to made ​​by the Kingdom, first to notice that the Arab Iraq wants to open to the Arab world were Saudi Arabia first, and then Jordan and the UAE before I went to other Muslim countries or countries in the world II , because of what appeared to be rumored for some of the issues of sectarian and confessional I wanted to give the message that is not between us and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia trenches sectarian and respects each other and held accountable for one of us on the issue of membership and began to break the barriers of sectarianism, which broke out another fire in Iraq after the bombing of the shrine of the front Military, and got our cause sectarian large and you want this step to break the barrier of sectarian or sectarian trenches and thirdly is the site of Saudi Arabia as a major country in the region must have an effect commensurate with the size of this effect.

How to promote security cooperation between the two countries in combating terrorism and what specifically are the means that support agreements required in this regard?

- Arab League to have special meetings of Arab Interior Ministers and said to be of the most successful all the meetings because the obsession of all the Arab regimes is the issue of security and the meetings of Arab Interior Ministers the protocol, and agreements agreed in the exchange of experience and cooperation and extradition to other security matters are common between the parties, a a good basis and is, and secondly we need to direct dialogue between us on the grounds that neighboring countries are in direct contact security more than in the divergent and we need to direct meetings to stand up and recognize the magnitude of the problems and security challenges we have and the security challenges in the Kingdom and we cooperate through the exchange of information is an important issue because the regulations Al-Qaeda and terrorist organizations mainly resistance requires information security intelligence and security cooperation between us and our neighbors, and between us and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is the exchange of information and experiences and what he has to hold joint meetings between us.

Was raised recently the subject of Saudi prisoners in Iraq, accompanied by rumors that there are executions of Saudi terrorism charges, and the other is one of the deputies said that there are three persons of the ruling family in Saudi Arabia between the prisoners and terrorist suspects What is your response to that?

- I have not heard that the Saudis were tried and executed penalty, and I have no information that we have three persons of the royal family accused and were present in Baghdad, so I think that much of what is said needs to be accurate and scrutiny, particularly as conveyed by some of them are not in the location decision or site access, whether they were journalists or politicians or parliamentarians, but which I know is that there are more than a round of dialogue between us and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in order to find a way out for the exchange of prisoners and presented the case on our part to eliminate the Iraqi judiciary gave his directives to the crimes and charges that may be suspect or convicted for giving an opinion in charges which may not be committed to the exchanges to spend his reign in Iraq and I think that this file is also open to the dialogue between us and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Enumerate what has been for the Arab summit?

- According to the statements of the Secretary-General and his Deputy has approved the Arab League that Iraq has provided all the supplies and the very high level of preparations and preparations, they probably would embarrass the coming turn it is after you in terms of preparations and concerns at all levels of security and services, housing, hospitality and our dialogue with the Arab League, Gary and continuous on the program Summit, which we hope to be successful for the collection of our Arab brothers and conclude the outcome is the most important thing we want is to assess the results of the so-called spring Arab and how to employ and direct manner that achieves the goals of the people who called for by including not confuse the state of stability in the Arab region and there are problems and Ktob We believe that we created a lot the preparations to ensure the success of the summit until the agenda is not our competence but it is the prerogative of the Arab League, but we proposed to the University some of the vocabulary of activating the cooperation in the areas of information and promote cooperation in the fight against terrorism and economic fields, because they are important channels for the stability of the region in addition to the proposals by the Arab League and it is important that the program set by the Arab League and its secretariat in agreement with Arab foreign ministers Bajtmaathm.

What Takimkm response to Member States to attend the summit?

- We have not reflected the lack of response of the States, and inform us by the Arab League that the thirteen countries from the Arab countries will send kings and presidents, and the rest will be representatives of the presidents or rulers or foreign ministers.

Some analysts rule out the summit for reasons of internal or external What do you think these reasons, especially being from creation in the region and the lack of some States to leadership, as in Egypt or Tunisia or Libya as well as current events in Syria and the nature of relations between Iraq and the Arab world?

- We do not want to say that these predictions or analyzes are unfounded may have a basis, but we believe weak basis, and is based on the facts of lived in Iraq, they believe that the security conditions that happen in Iraq, worrying but the representatives of the Arab League when brought to Iraq to see a description other than that seen through the media and television, some talking that states still have not made ​​up its mind toward the selection of presidents or their representatives to attend the summit, but these countries have today heads were present, whether they are heads of ministries or military junta these are the ones who will represent their countries and do not have a shortage or a node that represents who receive now run things in their own countries such as Egypt, Tunisia and Libya, in both cases are the participants in the summit and this is normal, so I think that the justifications and reasons for concern are very weak, especially when we determined the Arab good attendance at the Baghdad summit because of their data and large messages that Arab Iraq is one of the host the Arab summit.

Ttrguetm to the issue of what is broadcast and what is broadcast through the media, Iraq has seen a recent series of bombings in Baghdad and the provinces and other analyzes that the direction of an external position to give a picture that Iraq is not a country fit for a summit how you read it?

- These bombings, political and most complex realization of the security terrorist is when have political cover gives it the ability to breach, influence and make up their sites and the reasons this problem exists in Iraq, We hope that they do not exist in any other country who is in government facilitates and easy for anyone who wants to hit the power!

That took place recently in Baghdad despite the tragedy and pain for us, except that the number of reported martyrs was multiplied by weakness twice, which confirms that these bombings are the containers are placed in places Seen innocent citizens and the explosion, and some sound bombs just to notice that we are here and some of assassinations and car bombings and the fact they are targeting of all, as you would give a picture that Iraq is not safe, but all of these events if you want to Ttfqdha you will see it in places and positions do not affect the holding of the summit or housing guests or their place of residence or their movement or their entry and exit.

Yes they want to Aouseloa message not to stabilize the situation in Iraq, but the strange thing is that these bombings occurred and security envoy to the Arab League was in Baghdad and said will carry a message to say where we did not see or touch an impact on the state of stability, security intended for the Arab summit in Baghdad.

Some explain this, it is related to an internal affair or a reaction to the announcement date of trial in absentia Mr. Hashemi

- This is definitely one of the reasons and motives for such acts and will meet by one point to give a message of instability, as a man the position of an important prisoner and shops of the trial in absentia on charges of a serious criminal offense, naturally meant to be given a political dimension or send the message out that this represents the depth of the crisis in the Iraqi arena The truth is not so …

Do not affect such bombings on the functioning of the judiciary, even if they were collected her and collected ordered them to all those who oppose the regime, led by the former regime would collect all these told them they can not stop the work of the judiciary and the government’s work, can we in Iraq differ from others because what we have been through not measured as much as they happened in any other place Valoaadae may collect them and succeed in the planning and beat such a strike, but they do not achieve their goals, Iraq was swimming in a sea of blood since 2005 and until 2007 the bodies and heads chopped, bombings and car bombs per day and the kidnapping of the entire of the ministries and departments and the provinces of fallen security all this happened in the past, today there is no such thing, the whole of Iraq under the control of the security and stability, but these people and the way the sleeper cells that are moving here and there and take advantage of the opportunity and hit them and this happens in every country in the world and in recent times we have seen such a realization countries in a stable and strong but you get a security vulnerability in Britain and the U.S. and in Russia and in the Arab region and such incidents that we believe will not affect the political process and that the political dimension of which more than being able to change the system or drop the entire political process.

This question invites us to dwell on the issue Hashemi What are the similarities or differences between them and the issue of MP Mohammed al-Daini?

- Mohammed Daini they were serious charges, including the bombing at the House of Representatives, which cited the MP Mohammed Awad Allah’s mercy and the case is a lawsuit in which the confessions and fled to their impact, either the case of Mr. Hashemi is also the issue of criminal jurisdiction and perhaps the most prominent issues that were not the investigator of the security men never even said that the security has arranged .. But received by the judiciary since the beginning of the first accident happened in the cities and I caught a car bomb to blow up and maintenance of implementing and confessed and their confessions were rolled from the first moment was, however, we see that the judiciary and the judicial case in which evidence is spared from any possibility of political influence.

And the Judicial Committee composed of nine judges is rumored that it is the sectarian If we calculated a population, we find that three judges which are Shiites and the number of the year in which they are six judges, four of whom are Kurds who are years also two of the Sunni Arabs, all of whom are involved in the overall conduct of investigative case .

Eight of the accused is innocent until proven his innocence and this Agreed permission to attend the accused and brought before the judiciary and to defend himself and prove his innocence until the end of this file, either to stay away and tries to give this issue a garment political will will not be estimated because it is a criminal case in which informed even by members of the Parliament or people from outside parliament, known to them and the judiciary announced repeatedly contrary to his habit because it does not announce such issues, but to face the charges to eliminate invited him to speak in numbers and the evidence and information, then there are claims by the families of the victims of this all present before the court which he has to deliver itself but on the Kurdistan region to hand over the accused because the Kurdish part of Iraq and stay out of the delivery or escape to the outside, of course, gives the message to prove that the man involved and is better for him and best for the Kurdistan region to deliver the man to the judiciary to respect and that the trial and takes the right van was innocent acquitted, though guilty of these accusations take the right to justice.

Iraqi government is facing challenges and repeated charges of the first Arab identity of the government and the state, what way to prove its Arabism and this is reflected in the fears of Kurdish expansion at the expense of the Arabs in Iraq?

We believe that this tone is repeated the enemies of Iraq .. Iraq and the Arab country hosts an Arab summit today and more than 85% of the population are Arabs .. Yes, the Kurds and Turkmen Mujdan which also exists in other countries such as Egypt, Syria and other countries so there are minorities .. But Iraq is a founder of the Arab League and his Arab remarkable and put the actor in the Arab League was and still is, and Iraq, his blood and pulse and rat Te Arab and the charge is not in the interest of the Arabs to talk about a country is the second or third in terms of the ratio of the volume of the Arab population it .. Permission is given to those Arabs of Iraq if we do not recognize its Arabism? And is calculated from then?

And Iraq, Arab history Arab people Arab, and Arabs when they hinterland tribal Yemen and the Hijaz, and most of the tribes in which immigrant hundreds of years ago from Yemen and the Hijaz, and if there is a non-Arab Vosolhm which extends to Yemen and the Hijaz What can we say to them?

I am now of the sons of the owner and the children of the owner of assets Hijazi Yemeni and to Alan clans located in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and communicate with us in Yemen also communicate with us until I remember that one of the drivers car on one occasion he asked me and I’m out of Riyadh airport (where you Alakhu) I told him (I’m owners ), said means of the sons of the owner? So Amamk here and I can tell you I told them I know that when emptied and will go to them and visit them, the Arabs in Iraq hinterland originally from the Arabian Peninsula, and this migration that Iraq submitted to the known causes and circumstances in history.

What are the safeguards that maintain the unity of Iraq, despite the multiplicity of regions in it?

- If the administrative systems set up the correct form it does not affect the unity of Iraq.
Alan U.S. states and the federation system, is not it not the American standard? Russia where the federal system, Belgium and many countries in the world ..

And I repeat if held administrative regulations properly and here emphasize the word (if), if established on the basis of management, they do not affect the unity of Iraq, but if built on the basis of ethnic or sectarian lines will lead to strife and discord and to weaken national unity and to tear the country so we wait and see and ask the provinces that the pause in the Declaration of regions is not a rejection of the principle of administrative regions but circumstances now are abnormal because they will take dimension Sunni or Shia or Kurd, and the status of Kurdistan has become a territory since 1990 on withdrew the previous regime which became a buffer zone under the jurisdiction of international and formed her circumstances its inception, but the language of expansion not included because no one can lie today in Iraq, frankly could not be Eetmddoa Shiites at the expense of the Sunnis and the Kurds and the Kurds can be Eetmddoa the expense of others can not year expansion at the expense of Shiites ..

Iraq must live and where everyone basis, including the brothers and citizenship, and the remaining provinces have the authority or regions have the authority, asking someone, the final is the sovereignty, foreign relations and wealth, security and other whole remains central, however, the state and therefore we are not afraid of any stretch of the party at the expense of others and expands certainly will face rejection and respond according to the Constitution which regulates the administrative relations and regulates the borders and powers.

Ethnic and sectarian conflict in Iraq was that on multiple levels, you can see that the opening up of Iraq on the Arab world and improve relations with neighboring countries and will reduce the clarity of this conflict, if Atafoh?

- Certainly limit it, if Atafoh, because the clarity of identity has a significant impact in the context of policies to deal, and Iraq, which is a key element in the Arab League and the United Arab world in general this will be supportive of Iraq in the protection of its components and supportive of the Arabs in them to have a country like Iraq has capabilities and the potential economic and human competencies and even military will be all these things are all the result will be good enough as a cause to stop such acts so weaken national unity.

How do you assess Iraq’s relations with the countries of the Arab world?

- Was not good, for reasons, that Iraq is an occupied country and do not want to deal with the occupation, we give them the right, Iraq is a country of terrorism, and the Arab world and the other is afraid to enter into Iraq, Iraq is a sectarian Iktaatl sectarian and were issued a negative image to the Arab states and adopted by Arab countries to the positions of We criticize the Arab countries they adopt positions on the information and news from members Augeat exist, for these reasons the process stopped by the Arab states in the demand for Iraq, but when it became clear is more and more and when we signed the agreement to withdraw troops, and when Iraq began to destroy the sectarian strikes very and eliminate the militias and unite Iraqis again Blataúfah, then the end is the withdrawal of all foreign troops from Iraq and the return of full normalcy and sovereignty, turned to us the Muslim Brotherhood in the Arab countries, we give them the right previously to some extent, not completely, but now all the reasons that was calling for this omission may still, for that day will send its ambassador to Algeria, Saudi Arabia in addition to other countries, UAE, Jordan, Kuwait, all of which have open embassies in Iraq.

In your opinion, how to strengthen these relations?

- It is as I told you at first, the ways is to open up and sit on the base and the ground one, what are our common interests, what are our common challenges each of us bears the responsibility to establish these relationships and build bridges of trust and cooperation and face the challenges, challenges to Anicol her only security, but political and economic challenges and social, today we feel the need for major Arab countries to meet to take clear positions of the so-called spring Arab support and adopt it, to what extent, you will be as we hope is an element to give people their rights and lead to the stability of the country’s sovereignty and the state of uniform, it is necessary that we study, this is where many positives , but the risks, you should take the positives from this Arab spring, and cooperate with each other as Arab countries to prevent the potential collapse that may occur after a regime change, this is one of the things that you need us to cooperate with each other.

Second, the transfer experiments, Iraq is now a good experience, experience of national reconciliation and how it prepared us cohesion between the parties, when the experience of the elimination of the militias, which the experience of the elections, despite the fact that Iraq has complicated as the multiplicity of existing components, but every day we and every day to crystallize our political process Even some Arab countries began to ask us to experience the election, and our experience in the fight against terrorism.

Of the important points that I find necessary to cooperate, is that terrorist groups, particularly al-Qaeda began to take some of the countries that became established security fragile, take such premises, and this process of revival after our pressure on them in Iraq and after our size work of al Qaeda, they started now they get and find an outlet in this or that country, to sit down we are Arabs and we decide how to deal with this cancer, however the challenge will not discriminate and will not distinguish between the State and the State, yesterday, Syria considers itself outside the circle of the problem of terrorist, today are in the heart of the problem of terrorism and Al Qaeda are now starting to migrate from Iraq to Syria and possibly migrate from Syria to another country and to Libya, Egypt, and to any area where the system breaks down and disrupted the issue of control.

What is your reading of the general situation in the province or the region?

- Is this about which I have said, the province and the region on the verge of changes, changes in stage were revolutions and coups that began in Egypt, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Syria, military coups, and change regimes, and today the wave that you get in the Arab world are the changes in popularity, the public people out cross his desire, because the phase or era represented by the regulations may have been good, in part, when spent on the systems earlier, or changed, but it may have eaten themselves no longer able to manage things and move the region and the region to what is best, so I got a rose and retaliation by the masses to change the these systems.

That these so-called Spring Arabs or the winds of change also occurred in the previous revolutions and coups, now you will get these waves of popular uprisings to change regimes towards democracy and towards the elections and freedoms, and now Iraq is one of the countries leading up to in this area of the circumstances that have passed I do not want to explain it, available Ye freedoms too large, the media is free, party organizations and trade union organizations, professional and elections and the formation of the government and compete for power and disagree, and when we disagree we go to the courts, this model and I think that this model will go in a lot of Arab States, and if they do not master the movement of this model, it may lead to weaken the Arab situation.

You referred to the situation in Syria, Iraq, what is the position of it?

- And God as you know, between us and Syria differences are so large and deep, today and in the winds of change that we support the demands of the Syrian people that have his freedom, constitution, and that the principle of citizenship is the basis, not discrimination and one-party state, nor to other things, change is the need to and can not settle the case without change, refer back to our fears, that the change we fear that leads us to what is the most complicated than it is the current situation, particularly if it suggests interventions for countries with specific interests consider certain extensions, or that the domestic traffic congested backgrounds sectarian , this sectarian backgrounds are afraid of them to be a cause to attract sectarian and thus turn into a sectarian fighting and civil war, calls for foreign intervention, all this worries us, so we are with the Arab League in its opinion to find a peaceful solution through dialogue, the national on the ground, the Syrian and under the supervision of international, Arab, granting freedoms adequate and the formation of Government of national unity, each component beginning, granting leave to form political parties, fair elections under the supervision of UN and the Arab League and the elected National Council and the National Council is to decide the constitution or approve a new constitution for the country, so we have made ​​the demand of the people and avoided collisions that we see every day It’s moving toward sectarian fighting, this is Alkhtaralve we’re talking about, otherwise we are not of those who defend a system when the people want to decide, the principle of interference in the affairs of state or the prosecution of the people work is good and this is what we suffered in Iraq, we all stand with the people Syrian in his demand, but through dialogue and that produced by the trends to lure the international military effort to attack Syria, because it happened in the Iraq catastrophe

We hope that not getting in another country. This makes us cautious in dealing with Syria because Syria on the border of Iraq and if caught and sectarian civil war will proceed directly to Iraq and will affect the stability, unity, and will move to Jordan and to other countries and to Lebanon. This makes us reflect and think about a lot in the imperative to find a solution to the problem, but through dialogue and pressure on the parties should sit at the table of dialogue and reach solutions to our reservation Syria and avoided the evil of sectarian war.

But there are some people describe that there are isolated on the issue of Iraq and Syria in particular the current situation in the Arab world, especially after he refused to vote on suspending the membership of Syria in the Arab League, what is your comment?

- This in fact is expressed in isolation for Aigdr the nature of joint action, if the joint action of the Arab League that we Nbesm and sign without giving Raya is not the Arab League will grow or the Arabs will benefit from them, but there must be rai Alakhrmugoda This is expressed by Iraq, a view the other, so we agreed with them in the continued initiative and adopted the Arab initiative, but we disagree on some details that are arming the opposition and the Security Council’s call to attack Syria, but it is essential that there is another opinion, especially as the other opinion out of the merits of realistic and not from backgrounds as they say that Iraq supports Syria and gives ten billion and now has developed the case from five billion to ten billion dollars, this is false and the Arab League should not have to be a University Maicol the party and supported by others to Atdqik and scrutiny, because we’re going to where Landry, either a different opinion does not mean isolation, we support in part and disagree on the other side as other countries, and why Iraq is only an isolated has opposed other countries such as Algeria, Sudan, Egypt and Lebanon, there is no isolation.

Ok, there are those who say that Iraq is at odds between the emphasis on blurring the Baath Party in Iraq and his commitment to strengthening the relationship with the Baath Party in Syria, how is the harmonization between the two parties?

- Do not start, this speech right is not true, we are against the Baath party in any spot on earth, we say to you frankly, and this is what we have said even to Syria, because the Baath Party ravaged the earth corrupt, do not defend the Ba’ath Party and do not see the necessity for the survival of the Baath Party but also because we can not to be a substitute for the Syrian people to reject the Baath Party, from our side, we reject and do not want to keep the Baath Party, either is the case of Syria, we are talking about an Arab state Syria fear from the rupture and not the Baath party, let him go the Baath Party and no longer be, and I think should not be the survival of the party Baath, but if he wants to remain as one of the parties that compete, we have seen in the Baath Party is positive.

And finally about the accusation against Syria on Iraq support ten billion dollars, what would you say?

- The world thought that Iraq like Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, or Iraq, some Arab countries, as can the administrator or the President to sign the checks with ten million dinars, not dollars,and today’s Iraq can not exchange it anything but the law and not under the control of central fiscal and Aanfaq except by a law of any resource and the doors of chapters of the Iraqi budget, I can turn from, I now I can not turn from that to address the patient, but Bovq law, but according to the contexts of the Financial Administration Act. How to give ten billion, and whether the possibility of Iraq can provide ten billion? No, we donated five million dollars, we said during the Arab summit offer of five million dollars to Somalia, as well as of Palestine at the time only after the decisions of the House vote until we were able to exchange the amount donated in the Summit, all what is said in this regard is false.

Some analysts have established the idea of ​​Iranian influence in Iraq to the point to say that Iraq has provided a gift to America from Iran on a platter of gold?

- These accusations of political opponents, and if the political opposition did not speak these words, how would you speak.

Iraq will not be on a gold platter to any other country, not to Iran and to Turkey or any Arab state or any other country in the world, this of false accusations, we want to have good relations with Iran, and we want good relations with Turkey, with Saudi Arabia , with all neighboring countries, but we want good relations with all countries of the world and we have no interest in that never antagonize any country and consume and exhaust our best in anti-state, then why antagonize Iran?

Why antagonize Turkey? And that our relations and our friendship with the States is based on mutual respect and non-interference in internal affairs, I hope to those that entice our movement from 2006 until now how we treat the subject files, and the thing is unfortunate that some major countries to understand this fact and Aifamha some of our Arab brothers, one of the U.S. officials , U.S. Vice President, responded to this question that Iraq presented on a platter of gold, said to them, if you place you can see al-Maliki and Iran buy the F-16 of the U.S. Do you think this is acceptable to the Iranians?

If you place you can see al-Maliki and Iran sign agreement to withdraw forces and relations of strategic framework agreement, is this satisfactory to Iran? As well as well as started hitting them with the many examples that are realistic, we decide our policy and go, Iranians do not object, not a right that Iatradwaalina and many of our issues when we are Iran’s dispute policy, and especially you know the relationship between America and Iran, to any degree of estrangement, and we are in our relations with America relationship strategy and a natural, strong and solid list on the basis of common interests and understanding and a strategic framework agreement governing relations, these are all distasteful to Iran, but Iran respect the will of Iraq did not declare that it accepts or rejects even the subject of the election, we decide and go, but the political opposition, and this thing through you I want to aspects that call for the Arab States that Atzmawa of Iraqi political opposition to what he says, exhibitions, and in particular we have in Iraq, opposition political Etjny the truth and provided images of unrealistic but Anzeroh open the file and accurately to see the truth.

Of course, opening up to the Gulf the next steps to start your visit to Kuwait and the UAE, what about the dimensions of this visit and its objectives?

- You know we have a border with Kuwait and there are issues that are old and strife kept us and the brothers Kuwaitis Saddam Hussein in his invasion of Kuwait, there are things we want to finish this file, file the Iraq crisis, Kuwait, Kuwait is a sister are on our borders, we want to deal with it on the basis of sovereignty, equality and common interests and we want that we end this thorny issue, which is painful and complex inherited from the regime of Saddam Hussein.

As with the UAE, we have good relations with them and there is great potential for cooperation between us, economically, commercially and in the field of training. Projects are implemented by the UAE companies in Iraq and we are happy very existence of these companies to major projects up some of the projects to 12 billion or more dollars, this fact requires us to communicate and I’ve got the most important issue of the project and even more important than compensation Kuwait, which take them from Iraq, to build stable relations and friendly relations between the Arab countries, and will not end my visits to these countries of Kuwait, the UAE, but for all Arab countries, and I would go in this direction in order that firmer Iraq’s relations with its Arab environment.

And on the relationship with America, some say that although there is a withdrawal of troops but the withdrawal of my photos or formality and not a withdrawal effect, how is your response to it?

- We are ready to take you in a car and procession and let you roam Iraq from north to south, if I saw a U.S. soldier and one holder’s control, or has a camp then you will be our substitute, according to the Arabs and the world that the withdrawal formality, withdrawal genuine hundred
percent, that was left of the Americans, but what we announced it, we

We are no longer state held secret deals and behind the scenes and under the table, but we’re talking about publicly, when he asked Americans of us immunity to those who will remain of them as coaches turned it down, the House of Representatives refused to give immunity to them, so it does not have them not trained to arms, our purchases of weapons exist and they are trained such as what is found in many countries of the world under contract and without immunity, staying six months or a year training and end up going.

To the internal affairs of Iraq, what features of the development strategies under the approval of the budget 2012 and the amount of one hundred billion dollars?

- An ambitious development we have more of this budget, but much larger, because this budget, most of them almost more than 70% of which goes to operational issues, salaries and aid, our ambitions far greater, and this is the budget that is up to 100 or 112 billion dollars is not enough not only to a fraction of the requirements development that we want to rise up in Iraq.

But we hope that, God willing, and from next year with improved and enlarged the revenues from Iraqi oil and gas and the rest of the resources that will give a boost to the investment and Alamari and construction to pick ourselves up, we want to build a country is its people to be happy with it because it have the oil wealth is enormous, we want to reconsider build a college on the basis of scientific, schools, factories, agriculture, development and services of electricity and water, these have all been disrupted in the process of reconstruction and development since the eighties when he entered Iraq in a long war with Iran, so Aftmohatna development is very large, and plans that Iraq does not depend on its oil only, but in the stage The first depends on the oil wealth in the early stages, but we will rely on the other side, but industrial, agricultural and tourism on the side, because Iraq is a religious and archeological tourism are known.

I Mrrtm experience severe that nearly dragging Iraq into civil war, what steps to maintain security in Iraq and I mean this Charge of the Knights and more means the elimination of militias?

- Certainly Iraq, arrived and entered into a civil war, we were to say we will not enter, but we already have entered in the civil war and we entered into a sectarian war that is the dirtiest of wars and most dangerous to the stability of States, and features to kill Shia-Sunni because he is a Sunni and Sunni killing Shia because he is a Shiite, is not more than this ugliness in the sectarian war? But we have adopted the principle of national reconciliation, we mean a reconciliation of people with each other and not politicians only, and thank God we have succeeded in that, and now has become a Sunni go to Shia areas with respect and reverence and honor, as well as Shiite, when comes to Sunni areas, on the grounds that the Iraqi tribes and the people are from a single clan, but of Sunnis and Shiites, not including teams, national reconciliation for us succeeds, we have adopted the principle of arms, however, the State, we hit the militias not only in the Charge of the Knights, but in Karbala and Baghdad, Anbar and Mosul, we want to no longer be a weapon, but by the state, and not the ruling of a security, but by the state, The militias and al Qaeda are holding entire cities, and we succeeded in that, thank God, but it was difficult and not easy to extract weapon militias in the country of wastes where the central authority of security, Fbhven the two sides in the disarmament of militias and hit the armed factions and the organization of al Qaeda, and in the establishment of good relations and good and normal between the components of the Iraqi people, we have to face the challenges that can get Aotgerna to sectarian war and civil war, today we Enkhav of civil war, yes, you may disagree, may vary the center with the provinces or the center with the Kurdistan region may differ, but it goes naturally to the Constitution. Of the points that we’re working on and insist on them, and will be meeting next national meeting them, is that all the problems that we find solutions consensual and Tfahmah as we will go out into the Constitution, despite the existence of observations on the constitution, but the constitution will be the rule, and if passed by us, this proposal and will God will not pass there are still problems, you may disagree, we go to what the Constitution says we rely on it.

Subject of Iraqi oil, what the fate of the proceeds?

- Iraq’s constitution says that the oil and gas is the property of the Iraqi people’s wealth to the Iraqis, because it can not be oil in the area of ​​revenue only to the people of that province or region, because the oil was not distributed evenly God Almighty has not distributed equally among the provinces, some provinces are no where to Anaft and Aghaz Is it reasonable to deprive them of oil wealth of Iraq such as Anbar or Diyala Aouselah religion and if the oil Venaftha very few do not meet the needs of the region, that the rule we adopt is that the oil and gas is the property of the Iraqi people and the proceeds distributed to all Iraqi people and all provinces under the ratio of the population, I mean out of the budget and out of the revenue expenditure sovereign ruling such as the army and the police and foreign affairs, these revenues are considered property of the Iraqi people and the rest is distributed to the provinces equally, and turn into projects, this is the future of Iraqi oil to the Iraqis, and not allow that means the Constitution does not allow the truth and not I, the Constitution does not allow to be in the home is accounted for by the oil but the oil is produced centrally and distributed centrally to the provinces.

There are fears of a worsening situation between the Arabs and the Kurds, may result in a separation, as happened in South Sudan, what is your reading of reality?

- My reading of the reality that the separation is difficult, and does not serve the Kurds, before this, and these here are different there, tests for Atstnsch South Sudan has a private matter and left the States, and Kurdistan have a private matter and is surrounded by countries, not in the interest of the Kurds that, secondly, the Kurds have become well aware that their power and their interest and their future with Iraq and not with others, the Iraqi Kurds Maihsalon it did not happen by Turkey’s Kurds and the Kurds of Syria and Aakrad Iran, why overextend themselves and they take the share of Iraqi oil from the south and benefit from them, yes there are problems exist now between the province and between the provinces of Salahuddin and Mosul and Kirkuk, Diyala, this we shall also at the table of the solution according to the constitution, what constitution says all these areas and therefore a topic to the House of Representatives to find a solution to these problems that exist between the provinces that are between the Kurds and the Arabs in the northern regions.

What finally drove across the Okaz of a speech to the Arab nations and rulers?

- I first salute them and gave them, and I hope they have to stick to bonds of brotherly relations between us, and I hope they have to feel their subjects and their people and their children to contribute and participate, kindness and attention, respect and benefit Arabs, all of the developments in the world and tell them we have the capacity and minds, money and nature granted us by Allaah that we can make them through our cooperation the focus of green and the field of stability of envy and Agbtna the world. I I recommend the need for openness between governments and peoples, and I recommend and ask them, in fact, not a commandment, but ask them to open up to each other realistically only to find that many of the ingredients of good relations exist and therefore will be achieved interests common on the back of the common will be with us because the first, and then between us and the world second.

I am grateful to Karim Shaker, and the host you and appreciate you move the blessed wish is for you and for Iraq to further progress and prosperity and success, God willing.

- God bless you, I greet you through your newspaper Okaz respectable, and the oldest greetings to all readers and all Mtabaaha and management and thank you very much.

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