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Faith Rev. Franklin Graham Refuses to Say Obama & Romney Are Christians During Contentious MSNBC Interview
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 12:12pm by Billy Hallowell
Awkward and uncomfortable interviews aren’t rarities in the wonderful world of media. But Rev. Franklin Graham’s (son of famed evangelist Billy Graham) appearance on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” today certainly distinguishes itself, particularly due to the nature of the discussion: The faiths of President Barack Obama and the GOP presidential contenders. During the contentious interview, Graham declined to say whether he believes Obama is a Christian — a refusal that led to both confusion and angst among the show’s hosts.
“Do you believe that President Obama is a Christian?,” co-host Willie Geist asked.
“I think you have to ask President Obama…I think people have to ask Barack Obama — he‘s come out saying he’s a Christian. So, I think the question is ‘What is a Christian?,’” Graham responded.
Geist pushed the faith leader on the question, appearing visibly surprised by his refusal to say, definitively, that Obama is, indeed, a believer. In reaffirming his refusal to confirm Obama’s faith, Graham, cited the president’s description of how he became a Christian — a story that allegedly focused more upon his community organizing than it did a heartfelt connection to the Almighty.
“So therefore by your definition, he’s not a Christian?,” Geist continued, with Graham again saying that he cannot answer that question on the president’s behalf.
Here’s the entire segment (but continue reading, below, for more on the banter):
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/morning-j…64672#46464672
If this weren’t awkward enough, Geist and other co-hosts asked Graham whether he believes Rick Santorum is a believer. In this instance, the faith leader didn’t waste much time in responding: “I think so.”
Naturally, Geist asked why Graham was able to answer for Santorum, but not for Obama.
“Well, because [Santorum's] values are so clear on moral issues,” Graham responded (later in the interview, Graham also said that he believes Newt Gingrich is a Christian – based on the fact that he’s said he is).
“[That's] an amazing double standard that you just applied,” said so-host John Heilemann. “Your reaction to the difference — The question about Rick Santorum and President Obama, I think, just exposes an incredible double standard you’re applying to those people. They’re exactly the same situation!”
At one point in the middle of the interview, co-host Alex Witt chimed in, asking, “Reverend, what about Mitt Romney…is he a Christian?” Here‘s how the dialogue surrounding the top GOP contender’s faith unfolded:
GRAHAM: “He’s a Mormon.”
WITT: “But he‘s said that he’s part of the Judeo-Christian faith. Do you take him at his word?”
GRAHAM: “No, but most Christians would not recognize Mormonism as part of the Christian faith.”
WITT: “So, he is not a Christian?”
GRAHAM: “Of course they believe in Jesus Christ, but they have a lot of other things that we believe in, too, that we don’t accept theologically.”
The hosts — particularly Geist — was flabbergasted, it seemed, that Graham was willing to reaffirm Christianity in Gingrich and Santorum’s lives, but that he was not willing to do the same for President Obama and Mitt Romney (it’s important to note that Graham has said numerous times that it is permissible for evangelicals to vote for Mormons). When Geist, once again, raised the issue and called out what he saw as a double standard, Graham spoke about the president’s focus on the “Muslims of the world.”
“Under…President Obama, the Muslims of the world — he seems more concerned about them than the Christians that are being murdered in the Muslim countries,” Graham responded.
ThinkProgress created a compilation of these discussions, below:
This on-air incident follows Santorum’s flap over the weekend surrounding whether he believes Obama is a Christian. However, this isn‘t the first time Graham has questioned the president’s faith. In April 2011, he made similar comments about “the definition of a Christian” during an on-air back-and-forth with MSNBC‘s Lawrence O’Donnell.
It seems on the faith front, President Obama just can’t catch a break.
I have a problem defining the Grahams as Christians, because they theologically preach things that I consider to be against sound Biblical doctrine, but there is still hope that some of them might actually come to a knowledge of the truth. But seriously WTF does this have to do with being president or the Dinar? Some of the absolute worst people in the world were proclaimed Christians, like Hitler and the atrocities of destroying the knowledge of the world and setting education and science back a thousand years was done by the Catholic Church, a so-called Christian organization with a history of persecuting Christians and anyone else who got in their political way.,
this mix of evangelical disputes in Politic and even in economy (IQD) is for all world out of USA HILARIOUS!
On other site there are social prognoses about end of the “state infrastructure” and replacement of it by religion or corporation.
Live in “good old bible belt” is same experience as is life in Mecca or Teheran.
There is only one thing to say about this:
Jesus Christ said, “I am THE way, THE truth and THE life. No man comes to the Father except through me. He also said, “When you see me, you have seen the Father”. He did not say that he was A way, he said he was THE way. There is no other way folks. His blood that he gave and his life that he gave for the sins of mankind covering each person’s life is a must for entering the Kingdom of God. Otherwise, we will be eternally separated from God. If anyone believes anything else, they are not a Christian. A Christian is a Christ believer and follower. A person who has a one on one daily walk and relationship with Christ who is God, and the Holy Spirit, all three one in the same. We cannot just believe in our head that Christ died for us, we have to also believe in our inner man, our hearts and spirits. Then a true change will come in our lives. There are also a lot of people who claim to be Christians who are not. Jesus said we will know them by “their fruit”. The problem is so, so many people do not read the Word of God and, therefore, have no idea what God says to us, and they live their lives as they please; “Men do what is right in their own eyes”. As the Word says, “God is not mocked. Whatever a man sows, he will also reap.” That is the bottom line. This nation is in trouble because of blatant sin, and if it does not make a course correction, it will go down the tubes completely. If Jesus Christ is not Lord of this nation, Satan will be.
Celeste HOLY SHIT what a sermon, it loose me shake
Still without a sex?
Blessings
Churcha nd state seperate, Let Ceaser have what is Ceaser’s,. Who are the “princes of this world” We live in a “crocked and perverse nation” and have since the fall of Adam. Christians have been given the power to prevail, and actually if you watch the video and pay attention even Rev. Graham makes no implication that Obama is not a Christian and he is correct in stating he can not say anyone is or is not a Christian, because he can not see what is in a mans heart, that is betweenthe individual and God. And Rev. Graham stated that he accepted that O says he is a Christian and does do Christian things.
I personnaly believe that Jesus Christ is the SON of God, he was born of mary grew, Waxed strong, came of age started his ministry, died to pay for our sins and was raised from the dead as the Son of God who is the same yesterday, today and forever and changes not. I will not call God a Liar by saying that God was born of a woman grew died and was raised form the dead, I believe God when he says he does not change. I beleive God when he says Christ is seated at his right hand. I beleive Christ when he called God father. I beleive God when he said “behold this is my beloved son”. I will not say to God that is you not your son, because I beleive God. I do not just believe in God.